{"id":260,"date":"2020-10-02T19:45:20","date_gmt":"2020-10-02T18:45:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.dowsing-research.net\/blog\/?p=260"},"modified":"2020-10-02T19:45:20","modified_gmt":"2020-10-02T18:45:20","slug":"how-long-is-a-piece-of-string","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.dowsing-research.net\/blog\/2020\/10\/02\/how-long-is-a-piece-of-string\/","title":{"rendered":"How long is a piece of string?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Here is an article entitled. \u201cThe point depth method\u201d by Elvan:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dowsing-research.net\/blog_extracts\/BSD_No9_1935_p86.pdf\">http:\/\/www.dowsing-research.net\/blog_extracts\/BSD_No9_1935_p86.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the earlier years of BSD, members were often keen\nto improve the practices using in dowsing. Once such invention was \u201cthe point\ndepth method\u201d devised in 1936, by Major R. Creyke, (a.k.a. Elvan), who has been\ndescribed as \u201can extremely painstaking and reliable English amateur dowser\u201d. This\nwas a new and simple method to find the depth of underground streams through\ndowsing. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It appears that the method was at least inspired by an\nearlier method devised by the French dowse M. Probst. This fellow seems to have\nbeen motivated by the idea that underground water emitted some form of\nelectromagnetic radiation and he called his device the\n&#8220;radio-capteur&#8221;. It comprised a simple metal spike, rounded at one\nend, and pointed at the other, which was then stuck into the earth. The curved\ntip which remained protruding above the ground, was placed between the poles of\na horseshoe magnet mounted inside a box. A wire was then attached to the box and,\nisolated from the earth by a series of stakes topped with porcelain fixtures,\nextended in a straight line away from the spike. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To quote from the book \u201cDivining\u201d by Christopher Bird,\n(M&amp;J publishing Group, London 1980 ), \u201cProbst considered that \u2018waves\u2019\nemitted from an underground water source or metal ore deposit were in some way\n\u201ccaptured\u201d by the spike and, assisted by the magnetic field, propelled along\nthe wire. A dowser would then straddle the wire and frog-walk along it until he\ngot a reaction. The length of that portion of the wire from the ring to the\nspot between his feet was supposedly equivalent to the depth of the water vein\nor any other object being sought. Deeper water veins would be ascertainable\nfurther along the wire.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Probst\u2019s approach however was quite unwieldly and\nCreyke\u2019s method was much simpler to use. He retained some elements of the\noriginal idea. He used a thin Mumetal rod (Mu-metal is a nickel-iron soft\nferromagnetic alloy), and a wire connected to this rod, but now with no\ninsulation between wire and ground. The road was inserted in the ground, immediately\nover an underground stream. The dowser then simply walked along the direction\nof the wire with their back to the spike, until they obtained reactions with\ntheir chosen dowsing device. The distance at which these reactions occurred,\nmeasured from the rod gave the depth of features relating to the stream.&nbsp; In his original account, he makes no\nreference to e.m. radiation, but he asserts that Mumetal gave a better dowsing response\nthan a copper rod. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, at a later time, the self-appointed scientist\nto the BSD, Cecil Maby, in his book \u201cPhysics of the Divining rod\u201d (Bell &amp;\nSons Ltd. London, 1939), concluded that all kinds of metal rod gave\nsatisfactory results. For instance, he had successfully employed the method\nwith iron, steel, brass, copper and zinc rods. He also made the observation\nthat then longer the \u2018point\u2019 rod, the stronger the depth reactions. The\ndifference between the experience of Creyke and Maby is interesting. It may\nsuggest that unconsciously, or otherwise, Creyke considered the dowsing effect\ndependent on magnetism in some way. It was not uncommon at this time, or even\ntoday, for dowsing to be associated with magnetism in some manner. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Creyke cites several examples of actual depth\nestimates made in the field and how they related to the actual depth of water\nin the final bore hole, with quite remarkable accuracy. Some other interesting\npoints are noted. While following his method to depth a stream, he was able to\nblock out any reactions from nearby parallel streams, which one might consider\nwould interfere with the process. This tuning in ability, seems to rule out any\nphysical explanation as to the effect. Instead it rather appears that the\ndowser is mentally programming their reaction, although apparently on an\nunconscious level, &nbsp;to coincide with what\nthey seek, The wire simply acts as a prop, or aid, to focus the mind on the\ndistance to the object dowsed. The material of the wire, the magnetism is being\nirrelevant. In principle then, it seems no different from map dowsing, where\nthe map is represents the reality of the area being searched. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, the article contains a final interesting observation. It describes how he introduced his method to a seasoned water diviner, who himself had no reliable way to estimate the depth of underground streams accurately. Although not familiar with Creyke\u2019s method, it worked for him unintentionally, which on the face of it, appears to contradict the idea of unconscious programming. But in this case, the old dowser was being watched by Creyke, and there is the possibility that the former was being influenced unconsciously by the latter. This has been shown to be possible. It is difficult to say. Futhermore one could speculate on more radical possibilities. Perhaps the <em>idea<\/em> of the point depth method, once conceived of by Creyke, (or for that matter of Probst), might itself be capable of directing  unconsciously the dowsing actions of dowsers, who otherwise have no conscious knowledge of the idea. (Well it&#8217;s just a speculation). <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here is an article entitled. \u201cThe point depth method\u201d by Elvan: http:\/\/www.dowsing-research.net\/blog_extracts\/BSD_No9_1935_p86.pdf In the earlier years of BSD, members were often keen to improve the practices using in dowsing. Once such invention was \u201cthe point depth method\u201d devised in 1936, by Major R. Creyke, (a.k.a. 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